tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30312228.post9034012142781806657..comments2023-11-03T06:26:00.486-07:00Comments on Ms. Kitty's Saloon and Road Show: Why people reject conservative religious pathsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30312228.post-37127103572733754962008-02-11T07:42:00.000-08:002008-02-11T07:42:00.000-08:00Thanks for adding to our thinking, Societyvs. Her...Thanks for adding to our thinking, Societyvs. Here we all are in the difficult, complicated world of symbolism and metaphor!Lilylouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02328027965155428624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30312228.post-54182266324966984612008-02-11T07:28:00.000-08:002008-02-11T07:28:00.000-08:00The reason I left the conservative views is becaus...The reason I left the conservative views is because they did not line up with reality - in some cases they were good guidance - but even in those the testing of the theology proved to be it's huge weakness. <BR/><BR/>And that's what I get lambasted for in conservative circles now - for examining doctrine through the lense of reality - how it works in interactions with others. They seem to believe, for some odd reason, it should be reversed - reality should be shaped by doctrine - that was the same view that caused mass confusion in it hearer's ears.<BR/><BR/>There a lot of reasons for leaving conservative views - mine was a process of about 6 years or so - testing ideas and having convo's with 'sinners' (just like me). Maybe I am slightly UU in some of my theology now - but not totally - but like I have said once before 'how can one not like the acceptance of the UU'? <BR/><BR/>Also I think a careful study of scripture lends itself to moving away from literalism to dealing with a lot of symbolism (which usually is trying to make a great point about God) - and this leads one away from conservative ideals alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30312228.post-41137226276715864812008-02-10T18:20:00.000-08:002008-02-10T18:20:00.000-08:00What, me, bridle? I think you make a good point, ...What, me, bridle? <BR/><BR/>I think you make a good point, Joel.<BR/><BR/>I also think that most people need to see a reason for a rigid moral code and to have confidence that the rigid moral code really does do something good for humankind. There is often a sense that such codes are imposed by flawed human beings and are a power ploy, rather than something that is good for people.Lilylouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02328027965155428624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30312228.post-4779029242653740092008-02-10T16:53:00.000-08:002008-02-10T16:53:00.000-08:00This is absolutely not meant to be snarky, so plea...This is absolutely <I>not</I> meant to be snarky, so please be warned it might sound like it. :)<BR/><BR/>I've also known people who rejected conservative religious paths because they didn't want to be bound to rigid moral codes. Not that they had rationally examined the code and rejected it, but just that they didn't want to be bothered following it. So they decided that it must not be valid anyway. In that way, at least, liberal religion is much more convenient.<BR/><BR/>(Before you bridle, I'm not applying that to you, or even to anyone you know. But I've seen it happen.)Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02238001380092215123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30312228.post-44363303616123246132008-02-08T16:31:00.000-08:002008-02-08T16:31:00.000-08:00Thanks for your thoughts, Mystical Seeker and Eliz...Thanks for your thoughts, Mystical Seeker and Elizabeth.<BR/><BR/>I think one reason I came through the search without anger is that I wanted so badly to maintain my connections with my family, whom I loved dearly. I knew I would never again be the "golden girl" of my family but I felt that I was not really so different from what I had been as a girl; it was just that my understandings had changed with my liberal arts education. I wanted them to know that I was not rejecting them or their path; instead I was taking what I had learned and going farther with it.Lilylouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02328027965155428624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30312228.post-27277444172581566582008-02-08T16:20:00.000-08:002008-02-08T16:20:00.000-08:00I loved your statement that you could see the valu...I loved your statement that you could see the value of a faith community and wanted one. I feel the same way, but I learned this from watching Little House on the Prairie when I was a kid. No matter what the townspeople of Walnut Grove did during the week, no matter who was angry with whom, they all went to church and were in community together. Because they needed each other to find the sacred. That understanding stuck with me, for some reason.<BR/>At the real church I attended as a girl, everyone kept their coats on during the service and bolted for the door as soon as they could!Elizabeth J. Barretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816847702906422586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30312228.post-54915160376446417392008-02-08T13:53:00.000-08:002008-02-08T13:53:00.000-08:00My parents were, like yours, "loving and not dogma...My parents were, like yours, "loving and not dogmatic, even though they were very conservative." Well, maybe a little dogmatic. Anyway, unlike you, I managed to become angry over conservative religion anyway when I finally rejected it. You are lucky that you came out of that process without feeling the anger.Mystical Seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10828225180668865911noreply@blogger.com